excerpts from:
Uncensured with Swe.De
the full text is available in Swedish at CRAC in Context

 


Swe.De means Swedish Department.
The artists Christine Ödlund, Ingrid Eriksson and Markus Degerman talk to Annika Hanss
on.
Annika Hansson is the chief editor of CRAC in Context www.crac.org . At the same time, she contributes to the Moderna Museet web site www.modernamuseet.se. Earlier, she was the chief editor of Art Orbit www.artnode.se/artorbit

 

 

Annika: I just put an x here? Who you are? This is Christine we're talking about now. Marcus: Or you can just say a bunch of really dumb stuff and check in another name... Ingrid: Yeah, I think that's really good. If you screw up and do something really stupid...then you can say...then you write somebody elses...if you can't stand up for it later...

 


"Hm, me and Bella Rune...we made a flag in batik." Christine Ödlund
"I never work with any material, like that...I don't think..but..."
Markus Degerman
"Uh huh, right now its roundtable ping-pong, yeah."
Ingrid Eriksson

 

About the exhibition (real audio)

Annika: I was thinking of...just to characterize you...I understand it can be very different but what medium are you working in? Is it like...are any of you...working with video or other...or what's it look like?

Markus: Oh, that's horrible...

Ingrid: Pretty multi.

Markus: Yeah, really.

Ingrid: Everybody works with...or many work with alot of...different things.

Annika: Ingrid, what do you work with...your latest? You had a show recently?

Ingrid: Yes, but you could say it was an installation...you could say. It's a whole room...where I used the things I need...pretty much ready-mades that maybe I changed a little bit, like that.

Annika: And right now it's a ping-pong table?

Ingrid: Uh huh, right now its roundtable ping-pong, yeah.

Annika: And Markus?

Markus: I never work with any material, like that...I don't think...but...

Everyone: Laughter.

Markus: But I don't. It just ends up being some material, that's all, more than I really...

Annika: ...start with a material?

Markus: No. But now it just ended up being flourescent lights because I changed...from one place to another...that's all.

Annika: And that's what's showing at Ynglingagatan right now?

Markus: Yeah.

Annika: For how long?

Ingrid: Until the 29th of May.

Annika: Christine, then. What have you been doing lately?

Christine: I like working with computers. So most things I do are on the computer...through the computer somehow. I think that's the most fun right now.

Annika: Were you doing that already...I was thinking of...in school or is it CRAC that is, has been...?

Christine: Yeah, I went to the photo department so...first it was photography and then video at Mejan and then I did that...and now I'm working with animation.

Annika: What did you do for the Light exhibition?

Christine: Hm, me and Bella Rune...we made a flag in batik.

Everyone: Laugh.

Annika: Yes, that sounds really...computer...

Christine: Yeah. Laugh. One has to adapt to like...ones ideas. It doesn't really matter...which material you use. Now it was batik.

Annika: Yes, what happend there? (At the exhibition Lighthouse in Malmö).

Ingrid: Yes, that...it was our first show together...where we worked together but with our own stuff. But we've done a lightshow. We started with light and then we like...built it up on site. But each one of us has contributed with something they work with in one way or another. But only...the only thing we had in common was that we worked with light...projections or...yeah, there were slides, overhead projectors, flashlights...

<ībr> From "Lightshow", Signal, Malmö, 1999. Photo by Christine Ödlund

Annika: Where did you get the idea?

Ingrid: We've really worked hard on this one! We have really struggled together. We came up with it after alot of discussion back and forth...we started at different ends and...pulled like. What could we think of that would be fun and do-able above all...

Annika: How do you relate...are you your own...curators, like curators. Do you decide...for example how this show "Light"...du you decide what it's going to look like...or is it meeting and discussing the plan with someone else who has asked you to do the show? How does it work?

Markus: No, we decide ourselves. It's also a...that's something that I don't think that..I don't know if...no, if anyone outside the group would decide that. I think that...it's not in our favor. No, we figure that out ourselves through meetings and discussions.

Annika: Your latest thing together was "Light". What...have you any future plans as a group now...next. What is the next plan?

Christine: Hm, that would be the turné with Riksutställningar...eventually...I don't know, I think it's a done deal now...

Ingrid: Almost anyway. Not completely sure yet...it's 90 percent sure...now... maybe you can't say that but...

Annika: Maybe?

Markus: Let's say...hopefully.

Ingrid: Hopefully yeah, so if it works out...it'll be traveling for a-year-and-a-half...and in six places at least, sex, seven places in Sweden...and maybe in Denmark too...or in the US, maybe Germany.

Annika: When will you find out? When will you be sure?

Markus: Some time in May I think or at the end of this month...something like that. Pretty soon.

Ingrid: It was pushed forward a little bit.

Annika: Have you...is it...have you thought about what you'd like to do in that case? Do you have the ideas already?

Markus: Yeah, there are different ideas like...like..like what do you say...sort of anyway...it's...there is some foundation there...

Annika: So you don't want to say anything yet?

Markus: Well...maybe it will be...should we let it be more of a surprise. (Laughter)

Annika: Ah ha...well then, will Riksutställningar be a discussion partner with the group when it comes to decision making about the show...for you? Then it's not like you run everything yourselves...everything? How does it work?

Christine: Yes, what do you mean...you mean..they are really engaged in trying to get this project ok'd but they are in no way...they don't want to steer anything...we have already...told them how we want it

Annika: Hm...ok.

Christine: And that's how it'll be.

Annika: And that's how it'll be.

Ingrid: And that's how it'll be.

 

Translation by Melinda Bergman